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MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:31 pm

Posted by Northampton John


I change my irons every two years, and now the search has begun.

I currently have MP53s and love them, they perform well for me, (playing off nine), and I was disappointed that the new iron range doesn't have an MP54.

I thought that the MP59s might be a step too far for me, I need a bit of forgiveness in an iron, but enjoy the workability that a better iron allows me to aim for.

However I have tonight tried the MP59s, and from the first shot felt...Wow! Great flight, and an absolutely fantastic feel, but I was also really warmed up after hitting a good few balls on the range before trying them so was really in the groove when I tried them.

Has anyone made a similar move, the MP59s are for better players than the MP53s apparently, and I am concerned that a bad day could turn into a nightmare if not swinging well?

Any thoughts welcome?
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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:51 pm

Posted by Br1an_g


i personally found the 53 and 59 very close indeed in both forgiveness and playability. I don't think its a huge leap to move to the 59s.

hit them a few times before you decide, why not try the 64's as well ;)
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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:20 pm

Posted by BigPete


I've gone from 52s to 59s (with a bit of jpx800pro and mp37 in between) and found they play pretty similar. In fact I find the longer irons easier to hit (maybe due to a better fitting shaft though)

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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:21 pm

Posted by Deemac


The 64's are fantastic!

Go try them... they'll be in your bag before you know it!! :-)
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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:56 pm

Posted by Northampton John


Hey Deemac,

Long time no speak, two years in fact, hope you're keeping well?

What are you playing now? 64s I presume - do you have a view about 64s versus 53/59s? You play off 5/6 maybe if I remember rightly - actually do you have a view about the forgiveness versus playability issue? I know you talk a lot of sense, at least you used to.

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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:05 pm

Posted by Deemac


Northampton John wrote:

Hey Deemac,

Long time no speak, two years in fact, hope you're keeping well?

What are you playing now? 64s I presume - do you have a view about 64s versus 53/59s? You play off 5/6 maybe if I remember rightly - actually do you have a view about the forgiveness versus playability issue? I know you talk a lot of sense, at least you used to.

Cheers,

John


Hey John - good to hear from you!

I'm actually playing the 69's as I can't seem to resist pure blades! Blades are not to everyone's taste though, and so when people ask for recommendations, I tend to push them towards the 64's. I've hit everything Mizuno has to offer (surprisingly ;-) ), and have to say that the 64's IMHO are simply gorgeous! Also IMHO, not quite as gorgeous as my 69's, but if there were no 69's, it would be 64's in my bag without any hesitation! They have that gorgeous buttery soft feel on good strikes - and if they are fitted with the right shafts, they have a really nice mid-height boring trajectory.

Nicely compact, but not too small head size, nice thin top-line, and they sound brilliant on good strikes. I think we are looking at a classic in the making! They are every bit as good as, in fact - better than - the 32's!

I can't see past my 69's at the moment however, and I have also found these incredibly easy to hit despite them being blades! Without question the easist to hit blades I have ever tried. The fact that they are the golf-club equivalent of Megan Fox or Cheryl Cole is another distinct advantage!! ;-) GORGEOUS!!

As always, however, a lot of it will depend on playing the correct shaft/head combo! But the 64's are deffinitely the business for the full range of handicaps! I don't give much import to the whole forgiveness thing and prefer to play what I like to look at. In my book a good strike is a good strike and a bad strike is a bad strike - it aint the club that hits the ball, and if you hit a bad shot it'll still be bad regardless of what you hit it with!

Let us know what you end up with...

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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:45 pm

Posted by GMR2iron


Deemac, I feel the exact same! I think the forgiveness between the 69-64-59 is minute, at best. I have tested all three extensively, and other than a slightly higher flight, and slightly different feel with the 59's, there was not much difference in workability or forgiveness. A slight miss with the 69's would not have been a super shot with the other two, it would still be a slight miss. A toe-struck 69 six iron loses twenty yards, is it that helpful that a toe-struck 64 only loses fifteen yards? And more importantly, a center struck shot on any of the three is absolutely wonderful! We aren't comparing blades to wide sole offset shovels- it is one blade and two very blade like irons. I agree with you- play what you want to look at, and what you're comfortable with. And to the original post, you could toss the 53 right in with the 69-64-59 pie. SLIGHTLY different feel, maybe a touch higher flight, but still a very blade like iron. If you can hit one, you can hit them all-play the one you are most comfortable with.
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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:57 am

Posted by BigPete


GMR2iron wrote:

Deemac, I feel the exact same! I think the forgiveness between the 69-64-59 is minute, at best. I have tested all three extensively, and other than a slightly higher flight, and slightly different feel with the 59's, there was not much difference in workability or forgiveness. A slight miss with the 69's would not have been a super shot with the other two, it would still be a slight miss. A toe-struck 69 six iron loses twenty yards, is it that helpful that a toe-struck 64 only loses fifteen yards? And more importantly, a center struck shot on any of the three is absolutely wonderful! We aren't comparing blades to wide sole offset shovels- it is one blade and two very blade like irons. I agree with you- play what you want to look at, and what you're comfortable with. And to the original post, you could toss the 53 right in with the 69-64-59 pie. SLIGHTLY different feel, maybe a touch higher flight, but still a very blade like iron. If you can hit one, you can hit them all-play the one you are most comfortable with.



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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:33 pm

Posted by Northampton John


Thanks chaps.

The MP59s are just about the best looking club I've ever seen. I tend to bore my friendly local golf shop by having two or maybe even three fitting sessions to make sure I'm going to buy the right clubs.

I will give the MP59s and the 64s a go based on Deemac's suggestion. I had a look at the JPX 825 Pro too the other day, didn't look overly chunky, but then compared it to the 59s and realised where my heart lies, and so hopefully the fitting will confirm that's where my head lies too.

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Re: MP53s to MP59s?

Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:14 am

Posted by The Highlander


Good luck on your search. Deemac offers good insight as always. Personally find the 53's and 59's pretty much ideal for myself with the 64s being lovely but the longer irons are slightly stretching my ability.
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