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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:09 am

Posted by Grilled Cheese


Anyone want to give MPX and iPad lesson???
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:26 am

Posted by MPX


We don't offer the Orochi graphite shaft with the MP irons because of the head weight.  It's a much lighter shaft that requires a completely differently weighted head.  We offer with the JPX irons as it suits the head better.....and the type of players that tend to buy into JPX.

Mizuno uses a different weight head (lighter) for +1/2 inch longer shafts and another for graphite (heavier).

These all need completely different moulds......it's not a post manufacturing adjustment.  Essentially like having another model within our line up.  An especially big investment with the forged irons where the set up costs are infinitely higher.

Not a step that all of our competitors take.....most adjust the head weights using different badges post production.
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:05 am

Posted by ChrisP


Thanks MPX, reading into that if shafts lengths were equal is it correct then that an MP head is a little lighter than a JPX head.  For some reason  I thought it would have been the reverse.....still learning!
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:11 am

Posted by Hammy


MPX wrote:

We don't offer the Orochi graphite shaft with the MP irons because of the head weight.  It's a much lighter shaft that requires a completely differently weighted head.  We offer with the JPX irons as it suits the head better.....and the type of players that tend to buy into JPX.

Mizuno uses a different weight head (lighter) for +1/2 inch longer shafts and another for graphite (heavier).

These all need completely different moulds......it's not a post manufacturing adjustment.  Essentially like having another model within our line up.  An especially big investment with the forged irons where the set up costs are infinitely higher.

Not a step that all of our competitors take.....most adjust the head weights using different badges post production.

Thanks MPX, although it does mean that I can't have a set of 54's or 825pro/54 combo as I don't like the feel of the projectx graphite.
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:12 am

Posted by MPX


Not quite. Just means that we have to make more variations of the JPX iron heads to accomodate the lighter Orochi shafts.

Three headweights.......four including ladies.

Vs just two for the MPs.

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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:51 pm

Posted by Villiers1


Hi Chris,

My fitting is 3/4" longer and 2 degrees upright. However I was advised to only go 1 degree upright in the wedges.

Is this in relation to your earlier post regarding an adverse effect on bounce if there is too much adjustment in lie angle?

My other question is....If adjustability is the way forward in the future Mizuno wood offerings are we going to get an MP adjustable range that can compete with the Titliest 913 range in terms of similar adjustability?
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:43 pm

Posted by ChrisP


I'd have thought only loft changes would affect bounce V, ie 1 deg strong reduces bounce 1 degree and visa versa 1d weaker adds 1d bounce....but I'm highly likely to be wrong as usual!? :) good question mate.
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:44 pm

Posted by ChrisP


MPX wrote:

Apologies for the 'upside down' pictures.  Can assure they are the right way up on my iPad.  Very odd.

Mr Voshall is taking on a couple more of your questions between Cokes at the BA lounge in Munich.

Work him!! :)
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:46 am

Posted by MTR


ChrisP wrote:

I'd have thought only loft changes would affect bounce V, ie 1 deg strong reduces bounce 1 degree and visa versa 1d weaker adds 1d bounce....but I'm highly likely to be wrong as usual!? :) good question mate.

As stated loft and bounce work at a 1:1 ratio, but offset is more tricky. It's about +1.5mm or 0.003"per 2 degrees stronger if I remember correctly. Maybe not much, but definitely noticeable and one of the reasons you have to be careful when strengthening loft for better ball strikers.
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Re: R&D trip to Europe

Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:52 pm

Posted by Varry Hardon


How does it work regarding supplying players on tour who are not official staff?

I've heard about players getting sets of irons, say for example the airline lost them, but they are not on staff.

Do they pay with credit card or something in the tour bus?
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